tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8793210.post110974410956977378..comments2024-03-28T04:52:31.566-07:00Comments on Toner Mishap: 5-4 Supreme Court Abolishes Juvenile ExecutionsThe Misanthropehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15697151793588884333noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8793210.post-1109810539402955722005-03-02T16:42:00.000-08:002005-03-02T16:42:00.000-08:00Attila, keep ranting we appreciate it and your tho...Attila, keep ranting we appreciate it and your thoughts interesting and valid. I am just not sure the death penalty is not an easy way out. I would rather them live life in a cage.The Misanthropehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15697151793588884333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8793210.post-1109805858584166742005-03-02T15:24:00.000-08:002005-03-02T15:24:00.000-08:00I was opposed to capital punishment until I moved ...I was opposed to capital punishment until I moved to New York City in the early 80s. It's funny when I think back on it, but what changed my mind was the casual attitude toward killing, the sheer pleasure in it, shown by teenaged thugs. Teenagers. The same thugs that are mature enough to be punished for murder but not mature enough to be executed.<br /><br />The death penalty for murder may or may not serve the purpose of general deterrence -- of deterring others. But it sure as hell deters the murderer from ever murdering again.<br /><br />More important, to me the death penalty is the only way that society can collectively show that it values life -- not the life of the murderer but the life of his victim. Call it retribution or whatever you like. A society that spends its time worrying about whether it's treating murderers too harshly does not value life.<br /><br />As for the legal issues, read Scalia's dissent. This decision (whatever your views on capital punishment) is a disgrace.<br /><br />Sorry for being so irritable. I like the blog.Attilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13854421651854007389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8793210.post-1109792276368486752005-03-02T11:37:00.000-08:002005-03-02T11:37:00.000-08:00From the seat of my pants, and the top of my mind:...From the seat of my pants, and the top of my mind:<br /><br />I would not hesitate to kill to protect or defend my wife and children. I can imagine that, in the heat of the moment, many would also kill those who perpetrated acts of violence against wife and kids. The fact guilt and remorse might later come to the avenger do not enter the mind in times of great emotional distress; you can't always use logic to chosse your actions. Is the death penalty a deterrent? I don't think so. Does it make relatives of victims feel better? Probably not as much as killing the sons-of-bitches by hand would. But neither vigilantism nor the state acting on our behalf will lead to real evolution in our world.<br /><br />If it would cost nothing to our pocketbooks and moral consciences to keep evil people locked away with only the minimum necessary to sustain their lives (and without any priveleges), I think that would be preferable to killing them. Is it a "money thing" that leads us to accept capital punishment; is that really a good reason to kill someone? Because it's cheaper?<br /><br />I, too, find I have mixed thoughts on this topic.B2https://www.blogger.com/profile/17127446856576472299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8793210.post-1109784736885822132005-03-02T09:32:00.000-08:002005-03-02T09:32:00.000-08:00I've got mixed feelings too. Being a taxpayer, I h...I've got mixed feelings too. Being a taxpayer, I hate that to keep people in jail for the rest of their long lives is costing us so much money, but hey, I really would rather they didn't die. <br />I am not a person for whom it all comes down to money. <br />I'd rather see a more liberal approach to it all, than to stick people in jail needlessly, on the lower end of things. You know, smoking weed, minor things, not paying tv license fees (in England)etc.. I would like to see a complete reform of the ENTIRE system. <br />I applied for a job once in a prison, which I didn't get. I don't think really I'd be tough enough to deal with it, but it was an interesting thought.Chandirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11629463765622067086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8793210.post-1109782335461437522005-03-02T08:52:00.000-08:002005-03-02T08:52:00.000-08:00Hi M.,
I have always had mixed emotions about th...Hi M.,<br /><br />I have always had mixed emotions about the death penalty. I used to be much more liberal and against it because of the fear of what could happen if an innocent person was executed.<br /><br />In recent years I have become less concerned about that because of the appeals, no one is executed overnight.<br /><br />However I am not convinced that the Death Penalty serves as a real deterrent either. Perhpas I'll blog about this myself.Jack Steinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625864271071630940noreply@blogger.com