Thursday, July 28, 2005

On The Mark -- Get In Line, Helen

I've been meaning to write this ever since he had his medical check-up. I remember putting down the newspaper a few weeks ago after reading about his medical check-up and saying to myself, "he's going to run for president." It was the way the info was released. It seemed too familiar to me. I haven't even brought this up with The Misanthrope, even though I'm confident he would disagree.

But now that veteran White House reporter, Helen Thomas, has vowed to kill herself if he runs for president, I write in haste.

Dick Cheney will be the republican candidate for president in 2008.


The Misanthrope said...

You're right, I don't think he will run. It has nothing to do with the fact that he said he would not run because his word means nothing. Bush to some has a personality, Cheney has none. I hope he does run since that will mean a Democrat will be elected easily.

On The Mark said...

I agree with you regarding Cheney's personality, but I have no confidence in how the American people think anymore. Why did it take so long for some people to finally start figuring out that Bush lied going into the Iraqi war? (for one example). So I think you assume too much with your last sentence.

On The Mark said...

I just got this information. A UCLA professor in my building just returned from participating in a family exchange that will be televised on the Discovery Channel. His family (democrats) went to a predominantly republican community in the South for two weeks and that family lived in his house in Southern Calif. The professor said the thing that suprised him the most from his visit was that the people in this community he visited still believe strongly that Iraq teamed up with Al Qaeda on 9/11 (Cheney's drumbeat). See what I mean?

B2 said...

So wait -- is he running? What's the source?

The Misanthrope said...

B2, no Cheney is not running, but his doctors gave him a clean bill of health a couple of weeks ago. I read it and thought thank goodness he said he is not running, but now On The Mark is scaring me.

Bert Ford said...

During his last bid for governor Bill Clinton swore that he would not run for Pres......but he did.

Bush never lied. If you think he did puleeeeease post the text of said lie.

I would love to vote for Cheney in '08. Hell, I was pulling for a Cheney - Bush ticket in 2000.

The problem facing the Dems in '06 & beyond is that the average American doesn't believe them any more.

andrea said...

with his plumbing? he qualifies as (drunken quote) "one who was wounded as dead yet lived" from the book of revelaitons if he runs.
(I just left an art show, the triple x martini's work.)

bitchphd said...

Five seconds of googling:

"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida -- because there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida."

The prospect of Cheney running is kinda scary. But you know, read this month's Harpers (and the reports it cites re. Ohio). More and more I think that we actually don't need to worry about winning electios--we just need to worry about running them properly. B/c really, we won the last two.

The Misanthrope said...

Bert, first off, I am glad you found the site, It's nice to get an opposite pov from time to time.

Now from my perspective, OTM will probably have his own. Since when have the Republicans or Cheney used Bill Clinton as a model? If they did, this would be a far better country today. When you say Cheney didn't lie you are going back to the definition of "is". The Plame case is showing just how much Cheney and Bush lied to get us into a completely unjust war. There has never been any connection between 9/11 and Iraq. When Cheney holds back evidence that would change the support for the march to war that is lying, we can debate the type of lie, but it's still lie.

On The Mark said...

Bert, it's late, but here are a few without even having to give it much thought:

"the British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa" in the State of the Union address in 2003; which his administration had concluded was bogus in March 2002.

"We have removed an ally of Al Qaeda." Aboard the USS Lincoln. Actually, they didn't remove one, they created one.

"We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in." In press conference with reporters on July 14, 2003. In fact, after a Security Council resolution was passed demanding that Iraq allow inspectors in, they were given complete access to the country.

His citing of a United Nations International Atomic Energy report alleging that Iraq was "six months away" from developing a nuclear weapon; and that Iraq maintained a growing fleet of unmanned aircraft that could be used, in Bush's words, "for missions targeting the United States." There was no such report by the IAEA and these aircraft lacked the range to reach the U.S.

"Mission Accomplished" aboard the USS Lincoln.

Stephen (aka Q) said...

Here's a cheery thought. Cheney can run for President, with Dubya as his running mate. Then, when Cheney drops dead of a heart attack six months into his first term, you'll have Dubya for President for the third time.

The Misanthrope said...

Q, what a nightmare, but I am sure the Bush gang has certainly thought about it.